Season 2016 - Geelong

Geelong

Coach – Chris Scott

2015
Points For – 12th
Points Against –8th

Top 5 Best and Fairest

1. Mark Blicavs
2. Steven Motlop
3. Joel Selwood
4. Corey Enright
5. Cameron Guthrie

2015 Rising Star Noms

Cory Gregson (Round 6)
Jackson Thurlow (Round 19)
Darcy Lang (Round 21)

Ins – Patrick Dangerfield, Lachlan Henderson, Scott Selwood, Zac Smith, Ryan Gardner, Sam Menegola, Wylie Buzza, Matthew Hayball, Jock Cornell, James Parsons, Tom Ruggles

Outs – Sam Blease, Dean Gore, Bradley Hartman, Jarrad Jansen, Steven Johnson, James Kelly, Hamish McIntosh, Jared Rivers, Dawson Simpson, Matthew Stokes

My Prediction

Geelong went incredibly hard at trade week and did very well. Dangerfield is a great headline but hard to get too excited about Selwood (Jnr), Henderson and Smith. To me it still looks like it is essentially a net loss of talent.

I would imagine Henderson will play down back to take the place of Rivers but that still leaves a reasonable hole in their forward line. Hawkins is pretty consistent but unless Clark can find the right headspace then it looks light on up there. The development of Walker may help and the you have Kersten and Stanley. Losing Johnson will make their forward line a little more predictable, they have Motlop but really think they need him further up the ground.

The midfield is strong. Dangerfield is elite. Joel Selwood and Dangerfield running around next to each other is exciting. They still lack a little depth here as well as weird as that sounds. Scott Selwood will be a walk up start which indicates they need some of their younger players to come along. Caddy towards the end of the year started to really show talent and should go even better this year although I think he is likely to spend time up front as well. Blicavs is a handy round the ground ruck option and they will be hoping Smith can discover the form from earlier in his career.

The backline has been good and will stay so. Taylor will join Henderson and Lonergan which gives them good experience and coverage back there. They have Enright and Thurlow who will give good run off half back as well. Kolodjashnij came along nicely last year and he could be the key to releasing Henderson into the forward line.

Easy to forget that Geelong missed the eight last year. They have grand aspiration this year on the back of some nice recruiting. I am probably the only one and I am probably wrong but I don’t think it will help. I do think they are a chance to make the eight but only just. I predict somewhere from 8-10.
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Comments

  • Houli DooliHouli Dooli Half Forward Flanker
    edited January 2016
    Geelongs Best 22
    B Koldashnij Lonergan Taylor
    HB Mackie Henderson Enright
    C Caddy Dangerfield Blicavs
    HF Bartel Clark Duncan
    F Motlop Hawkins Menzel
    R Smith J Selwood S Selwood
    Int Cockatoo ThurlowGuthrie Lang
    Emg: Vardy, Gregson Murdoch

    Thought Enright had retired.

    My guesses
    - Koldashnij comes on and plays a role in defence.
    - Thurlow comes on and becomes a regular in 22 possible HBF as well.
    - Cockatoo plays a lot of games as best 22.
    - Zac SMith to ruck - Who knows about vardys body, and they have drafted smith, they may prefer smith ruck, with Blicavs - mid/backup ruck.
    - - yes motlop is starting small forward....but predict him to have midfield time too. and they actually lack small forward with stokes & Christenson leaving....Gregson is there and will probably play most games again as well., as wont have 22 all fit.


    I think the Geelong side is quite good. Top 8 material
    will depend on a few things
    - Making Kardinia park a fortress again
    - Smith/Menzel/Vardy/Clark getting over injury curses
    - Midfield is strong but will they Gel together.
    - How much will the loss of Stevie J/Stokes/Kelly be.
    - contributions of additions Dangerfield, Henderson, S Selwood.
  • AllblackAllblack Voice of Reason
    Enjoying your work Houli
  • Henry's Angry PillsHenry's Angry Pills Henry, Sir Womble of Cock
    Walker's gone, to Brisbane
  • Henry's Angry PillsHenry's Angry Pills Henry, Sir Womble of Cock
    Blicavs won their B&F, he's far more than just handy. I find Geelong really hard to pick. Big big changes, and Danger's one of the best 2-3 in the game. Not sure if a club's ever really won their way up the ladder by this sort of horse-trading, they've laid a lot on the line to make it happen.
  • AllblackAllblack Voice of Reason
    I think Blicavs was great in the first half of the season but impact dropped off as the year went on.
  • Henry's Angry PillsHenry's Angry Pills Henry, Sir Womble of Cock
    edited January 2016
    Not by much, if at all.
    First half of the year he was splitting ruck minutes, mostly with Stanley. Stanley was pretty much out all the 2nd half of the year with Blicavs taking the lion's share - Walker, Simpson, Vardy having occasional cameos.

    Definitely wasn't chalk & cheese.

    18.5 disp / 13.3 hitouts / 4.8 marks / 5.4 tackles in the first half v
    17.8 / 19.6 / 4.3 / 6.6 in the second half.

    Either way he can be an absolute game changer. He's out-nic-natting Nic-Nat at the moment.
  • Houli DooliHouli Dooli Half Forward Flanker
    edited January 2016

    Not by much, if at all.
    First half of the year he was splitting ruck minutes, mostly with Stanley. Stanley was pretty much out all the 2nd half of the year with Blicavs taking the lion's share - Walker, Simpson, Vardy having occasional cameos.

    Definitely wasn't chalk & cheese.

    18.5 disp / 13.3 hitouts / 4.8 marks / 5.4 tackles in the first half v
    17.8 / 19.6 / 4.3 / 6.6 in the second half.

    Either way he can be an absolute game changer. He's out-nic-natting Nic-Nat at the moment.

    Whats your opinion on Stanley will he get back in the 22?
    Would you prefer Smith/ Blicavs Ruck combo or Stanley/Blicavs Combo
    Or Vardy/Blicavs

  • Henry's Angry PillsHenry's Angry Pills Henry, Sir Womble of Cock
    I reckon they'll run with Blicavs and one of Stanley, Vardy or Smith.

    Smith's been poop for 3 years, be interesting to see if they can convince him to pull his finger out.
  • tom hawkins doesn't strike me as the sharpest tool. Don't get me wrong love the way he plays and cna monster people now

    but in the media rounds yesterday saying supporters need to taper their expectations of dangerfield, as he still have to "learn the geelong way".

    um you've pretty much sold the boat for the next 2 years on the premise dangerfield and the other nufties will win you a flag, so i think that ships sailed of not expecting to much.

    and for **** sake it was only 8 odd years ago that the "geelong way" was always the bridesmaids when making it to the big dance, and pretty much bar bartel and selwood, most of the players who made you great in that era have retired.

    pfft, asking supporters not to expect to much, FFA you didn't pick up danger plus all the other half decent players and not expect to win the whole thing.
    think anything outside of at least a gf appearence is a fail for this year for them. They've gone all in with these players, no backing out now.
  • Henry's Angry PillsHenry's Angry Pills Henry, Sir Womble of Cock


    pfft, asking supporters not to expect to much, FFA you didn't pick up danger plus all the other half decent players and not expect to win the whole thing.
    think anything outside of at least a gf appearence is a fail for this year for them. They've gone all in with these players, no backing out now.

    Pretty much.

    I'm not sure they're really all that deep (now) with what they gave away. An injury to Hawkins or Taylor and you're relying on Rhys Stanley to lead a line.
  • That and is Selwood/Danger really that much better than 2 of Mitchell/Hodge/Lewis?
  • RebootReboot If you don't pay your exorcist you can get repossessed.

    That and is Selwood/Danger really that much better than 2 of Mitchell/Hodge/Lewis?

    Yes
  • B Koldashnij Lonergan Taylor
    HB Mackie Henderson Enright
    C Caddy Dangerfield Blicavs
    HF Bartel Clark Duncan
    F Motlop Hawkins Menzel
    R Smith J Selwood S Selwood
    Int Cockatoo Thurlow Guthrie Lang
    Emg: Vardy, Gregson Murdoch

    i hate to admit it but if that side gets a good run with injuries they'll be pretty hard to stop. Duncan has really really come on now and If motlop gets back to his best they'll be super dangerous not to mention if menzel can stay on the park. Henderson is an upgrade on rivers. Keeping them fit will be the trick because they have no depth.
  • YossarianYossarian Follow AFL? No, I follow Essendon
    I know I said anyone but Hawthorn, but if it's Geelong who breaks the streak the I farking give up

    They've won 7 of the last 9 between them already
  • Houli DooliHouli Dooli Half Forward Flanker
    edited March 2016

    Hawks were pretty competitive yesterday without Hill/Shiels/Ceglar/Roughead. They just don't have the depth to cover injuries as well this year and Cats were almost injury free.



  • IceTempleIceTemple Always Elite
    A few weeks ago Mitch Clarke sledged a Box Hill Hawks opponent's sister. The problem with that was this sister is the long-term girlffirend of Clarke's own team mate Mitch Duncan. Let's just saw Duncan was not overly impresssed.
  • DavoDavo Country member
    IceTemple said:

    A few weeks ago Mitch Clarke sledged a Box Hill Hawks opponent's sister. The problem with that was this sister is the long-term girlffirend of Clarke's own team mate Mitch Duncan. Let's just saw Duncan was not overly impresssed.

    How did the sister even find out?
  • IceTempleIceTemple Always Elite
    Davo said:

    IceTemple said:

    A few weeks ago Mitch Clarke sledged a Box Hill Hawks opponent's sister. The problem with that was this sister is the long-term girlffirend of Clarke's own team mate Mitch Duncan. Let's just saw Duncan was not overly impresssed.

    How did the sister even find out?
    He sledged the guy about his sister, poor wording. Most heard it apparently and Duncan was advised and he went to Clarke to vent his disapointment.
  • IceTemple said:

    A few weeks ago Mitch Clarke sledged a Box Hill Hawks opponent's sister. The problem with that was this sister is the long-term girlffirend of Clarke's own team mate Mitch Duncan. Let's just saw Duncan was not overly impresssed.

    So now this is a huge scandal that has erupted in AFL communication specialists land is it?

    This media is laughably embarrassing if this story is an issue and is going to grow any legs.

  • Serenity NowSerenity Now Televisionary
    Sledging a player's family. Classy move.
  • edited July 2016

    IceTemple said:

    A few weeks ago Mitch Clarke sledged a Box Hill Hawks opponent's sister. The problem with that was this sister is the long-term girlffirend of Clarke's own team mate Mitch Duncan. Let's just saw Duncan was not overly impresssed.

    So now this is a huge scandal that has erupted in AFL communication specialists land is it?

    This media is laughably embarrassing if this story is an issue and is going to grow any legs.

    We have to wait until rebecca wilson puts her 20c worth in, she will tell us whether its a story or not & how we should feel about it
  • Cats look as though they've got a lot of work in front of them to contend this year. Their forward line is not functioning, too big & struggling without a half forward marking/linking player, backline also looks too tall & struggling with quick forwards, nor are they transitioning well out of the backline, and midfield too reliant on Selwood & Dangerfield
  • Rocky IVRocky IV ...............Ill get me coat...
    Was convinced by about round 5 no one would beat this mob, now they're all over the show.
  • IceTempleIceTemple Always Elite
    Their midfield strength is weak, if Selwood and Dangerfield are kept in control they have no one else of that standard to pick up the slack. This puts enormous pressure on both their forwardline and backline. Hawkins is really struggling this year, he looks too big and is not proving to be mobile enough and his second efforts go missing for vast periods of the game. They need other more mobile forwards to help him out.
  • IceTemple said:

    Their midfield strength is weak, if Selwood and Dangerfield are kept in control they have no one else of that standard to pick up the slack.

    Is there a team in the league that's going to be just fine if you subdue its two best midfielders? Also, is there a team in the league that has as its third best midfielder someone as good as Selwood or Dangerfield to pick up the slack ?
  • edited August 2016
    Enough said
  • Turns out that Blake Caracella has walked out on the Cats with Richmond a likely target. Bring him home?
  • rossonerirossoneri #standbynickyd
    pazza said:

    Turns out that Blake Caracella has walked out on the Cats with Richmond a likely target. Bring him home?

    Hasn't walked out, will be leaving at the end of the finals campaign
  • Sameolds2010Sameolds2010 Everything is awesome
    pazza said:

    Turns out that Blake Caracella has walked out on the Cats with Richmond a likely target. Bring him home?

    Bring him home?
    We kicked him out
  • I don't get what geelong are trying to do.

    In the last few years they have
    traded chappy cos they had all these young guys coming through who needed game time.
    next year they allow christianson to go to brissy, sure they still have some forward talent left.
    then they get rid of stevie J
    now they are offering up motlop for a hbf in deliedio.

    So essentially they've traded out pretty much all of their small genuine forwards, and just tried to grab as many supposedly decent players, to just stick on the park.

    They have Menzel and cockatoo as their only genuine forwards, maybe griegson too, and they've had to sell the farm and their "soul" the last 2 years to get all these players in.
    I said this year would be a failure if they dont' win the flag, and it should be seen as such, but next year if they don't win it either, it should be considered a failure also.
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