Season 2016 - St Kilda

AllblackAllblack Voice of Reason
edited February 2016 in Non Essendon Stuff
St Kilda

Coach – Alan Richardson

2015
Points For – 13th
Points Against – 15th

Top 5 Best and Fairest

1. Jack Steven
2. David Armitage
3. Sean Dempster
4. Leigh Montagna
5. Jarryn Geary

2015 Rising Star Noms

Jack Lonie (Round 14)

Ins – Jake Carlisle, Nathan Freeman, Jade Gresham, Bailey Rice, Brandon White, Nick O’Kearney, Nick Coughlan

Outs – Daniel Markworth, Farren Ray, Tom Simkin, Arryn Siposs, Spencer White, Ahmed Saad, Adam Schneider

My Prediction

There seems to be a genuine optimism around St Kilda and where they are at the moment. They have managed to get a couple of early draft picks including Paddy McCartin last year who is being groomed to be the heir to Reiwoldt. Has a slight whiff of the Jack Watts about him but only time will tell.

They looked like coming through trade week like champions. Getting a proven 8-10 year KP back, an early mid as well as keeping a first round pick. A lot of that has unravelled since although internally it could be a different story. You do hear that Carlisle has put the head down and is working hard, although for Carlisle, what he does on the track has rarely been the question. If they straighten him out then they have a very good player on their hands. Freeman would be shot if he was a racehorse.

They found a good once with Josh Bruce last year. He has been better than anyone expected. They will need him to improve or at least maintain his form of last year for the Saints to improve. Armitage finally became a player. There is some signs of promise but I don’t think the list is anywhere near as good as the optimism would suggest.

Saints are still a couple of years away from being a challenger for the 8 and could even drop this year. 14-16th for mine.
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Comments

  • Love these profiles you do every year Allblack. Agree with your summation.

    Their list seems pretty unbalanced with a lot of quality at the wrong end of the age graph, not much quality between 24-28 and the rest are young kids. Could be a rocky few years as a result.
  • Henry's Angry PillsHenry's Angry Pills Henry, Sir Womble of Cock
    Ins are much better than their outs, IMHO
    Still a lot of old stagers, particularly back (5 of their first string backline last year were 30 or over), but not many of them really that important. Should tread water, maybe improve. Like us, they should be more worried about getting games into McCartin et al than wins & losses.
  • Houli DooliHouli Dooli Half Forward Flanker
    B Gilbert Fisher Goddard
    HB Newnes Carlisle Dempster
    C Montagna Dunstan Savage
    HF Billings Reiwoldt (c) Membrey
    F McCartin Bruce Rice
    R Longer Steven Armitage
    Int Geary, Gresham , Weller, Roberton

    Emg Hickey Ross, Sinclair

    I think Hickey was better than Longer in 2014 but longer played more last year and hickey always injured

    geez Sinclair -you can tell I don't watch many saints games as I have barely heard of him.
    Expect Rice & Gresham to break into the team for Cameo's.
    Carlisle strengthens the defence, and allows goddard to develop being the 2nd/third tall with fisher swapping for matchups.
    Gilbert has barely played recent times but if him, dempster, fisher are all back then they have an experienced defence.
    Saints will be light on for depth, but should start the year stong and fall away as the year goes on due to the amount of younger players in the squad.

    Membrey, Reiwoldt, mccartin and bruce in the forwardline is too tall, but I think they need to get games into mccartin now. maybe that means membrey is playing reserves again.
  • Henry's Angry PillsHenry's Angry Pills Henry, Sir Womble of Cock
    What was the point of Membrey again?
    Still think if he's a genuine option to get a lot of games, they've got plenty of issues.
  • Houli DooliHouli Dooli Half Forward Flanker
    edited January 2016

    What was the point of Membrey again?
    Still think if he's a genuine option to get a lot of games, they've got plenty of issues.

    Point of membrey was they had no one other than reiwoldt up forward. And stkilda struggled to attract quality players.

    then they drafted mccartin and Bruce turned into a good forward, hence making an average membrey a reserves player. He still played 9 games, which was more than mccartin (3) last year, but I expect mccartin to play more than membrey in 2016, plus I threw a few fast smaller players in the team as well - Rice, Billings, Gresham
  • Henry's Angry PillsHenry's Angry Pills Henry, Sir Womble of Cock
    Whether you've got other guys there or not, he's a 6'1" leading marking player, slowish, and not much of a leap.
    I just don't know what problem he was meant to solve. I'm sure he'll pootle along and take his 3-4 marks and kick his goal or so every week, but for me I'd rather a guy like Shaunye, who's got some weapons, even if he doesn't use them anywhere near often enough. You can see how and why he could develop into a guy who could open up games.
  • thanks for pick 5 you ****s.
  • ROOKIEROOKIE SHOWS PROMISE

    thanks for pick 5 you ****s.

    Very Harsh! Reckon they would be bleeding!
  • RebootReboot If you don't pay your exorcist you can get repossessed.
    No pick 5, and no key defender. Poor start to the year for them.
  • ROOKIE said:

    thanks for pick 5 you ****s.

    Very Harsh! Reckon they would be bleeding!
    harsh for carlisle, but **** st Kilda.
  • Houli DooliHouli Dooli Half Forward Flanker
    Reboot said:

    No pick 5, and no key defender. Poor start to the year for them.

    Will help them with draft picks this year though.
  • It will enable Richardson to get another contract after another **** year.
  • YossarianYossarian Follow AFL? No, I follow Essendon
    Saints have released a statement:

    St Kilda FC has received a copy of the Court of Arbitration for Sport’s decision regarding the 34 past and present Essendon players, which includes Jake Carlisle.

    Jake is understandably devastated with the decision, and our priority is to provide him with ongoing welfare and support.

    St Kilda is currently liaising with the AFL and the AFLPA to determine more detailed implications of this morning’s decision and will provide further updates as appropriate.
  • rossonerirossoneri #standbynickyd
    Reboot said:

    No pick 5, and no key defender. Poor start to the year for them.

    We'll we've lost our running HBF, 2 forward/back swing men plus few others.
  • AllblackAllblack Voice of Reason
    Buyer beware
  • RebootReboot If you don't pay your exorcist you can get repossessed.
    rossoneri said:

    Reboot said:

    No pick 5, and no key defender. Poor start to the year for them.

    We'll we've lost our running HBF, 2 forward/back swing men plus few others.

    True, but I thought this thread was about St Kilda, not us.
  • Videos made for one J. Carlisle.



  • DeckhamDeckham Going down swinging

    Videos made for one J. Carlisle.


    Though I did nearly smile at that one. I still would dearly like to hold that moron by the neck and repeatedly punch him in the face till he's unrecognisable.

    Hmmm.....too much coffee, maybe...
  • Its a parody channel aimed a different demographic.
  • AllblackAllblack Voice of Reason
    To adjust my prediction. Without Carlisle this year. Will do well to maintain last years position.
  • RiolioRiolio Maybe it's the TB4 talking
    PICK

    FIVE
  • Riolio said:

    PICK

    FIVE

    Will be playing for us this year.

  • Don't really know where to post this, but saw Jake Carlisle at Pawn and Co @ 5am smoking ciggies off his rocker HAHAHHA.

    Glad we got rid of that ****.
  • rylandoz said:

    Don't really know where to post this, but saw Jake Carlisle at Pawn and Co @ 5am smoking ciggies off his rocker HAHAHHA.

    Glad we got rid of that ****.

    could have filmed it and made a few extra bob from ACA.
  • aboodsaboods Distant Sniper
    rylandoz said:

    Don't really know where to post this, but saw Jake Carlisle at Pawn and Co @ 5am smoking ciggies off his rocker HAHAHHA.

    Glad we got rid of that ****.

    Can't really blame him at the moment. Good chance to have a bit of fun for a little while
  • RebootReboot If you don't pay your exorcist you can get repossessed.
    rylandoz said:

    Don't really know where to post this, but saw Jake Carlisle at Pawn and Co @ 5am smoking ciggies off his rocker HAHAHHA.

    Glad we got rid of that ****.

    Personally I have no problem with a player doing that.
    As long as they play well.
    I was a big Vander fan.
  • edited February 2016
    Reboot said:

    rylandoz said:

    Don't really know where to post this, but saw Jake Carlisle at Pawn and Co @ 5am smoking ciggies off his rocker HAHAHHA.

    Glad we got rid of that ****.

    Personally I have no problem with a player doing that.
    As long as they play well.
    I was a big Vander fan.
    Didn't harm Warnie's cricket
  • AllblackAllblack Voice of Reason
    Probably an indication however that he isn't well placed to come back after 12 months off in better condition than he left. Struggled with the rules anyhow. Now he doesn't have them
  • are we really paying a portion of his salary this year, or was I told a furphy?
  • DavoDavo Country member
    rylandoz said:

    Don't really know where to post this, but saw Jake Carlisle at Pawn and Co @ 5am smoking ciggies off his rocker HAHAHHA.

    Glad we got rid of that ****.

    I blame Stanton.

    BOOOOOOOOOOO
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